[Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP

Sam Tetherow tetherow at shwisp.net
Mon Apr 26 10:52:31 CDT 2010


I'm sure it had nothing to do with the $100 bill...

    Sam Tetherow
    Sandhills Wireless

Stuart Pierce wrote:
> You know she is still smiling !
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Sam Tetherow <tetherow at shwisp.net>
> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik at mail.butchevans.com>
> Date:  Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:17:06 -0500
>
>   
>> The REAL Stuart Pierce (in action).
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22170756@N02/page3/
>>
>> Stuart Pierce wrote:
>>     
>>> ROFLMAO, those were the days, giddy up !
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: "Damian Wallace" <DWallace at tranzeo.com>
>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik at mail.butchevans.com>
>>> Date:  Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:07:19 -0700
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> SAM!!!!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22170756@N02/2139235684/in/photostream/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com
>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Damian
>>>> Wallace
>>>> Sent: April-23-10 5:02 PM
>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>>>>
>>>> Pics or it never happened :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com
>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
>>>> Sent: April-23-10 5:54 PM
>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>>>>
>>>> What are you trying to say conehead ? ;)
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>> From: "Damian Wallace" <DWallace at tranzeo.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik at mail.butchevans.com>
>>>> Date:  Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:26:53 -0700
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Wiki's and forums are for companies too cheap to have real tech support
>>>>> :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com
>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Pierce
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Sent: April-23-10 6:03 AM
>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>>>>>
>>>>> No doubt, I miss the Tranzeo list on Part-15.org as well. No offense
>>>>> meant to Tranzeo, but their wiki or whatever they have is very sad.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>>> From: Chris Gotstein <chris at uplogon.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik at mail.butchevans.com>
>>>>> Date:  Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:27:12 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Is the list active?  I'm pretty sure i'm subscribed to it.  I miss the
>>>>>> tranzeo list from Part-15.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---- ---- ---- ----
>>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | chris at uplogon.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/21/2010 2:25 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> There are new Tranzeo lists to complain on at wispa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "Damian Wallace"
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> <DWallace at tranzeo.com>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Point taken.  We are working on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Back to MT issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>>> Gotstein
>>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS
>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards.  No problems connecting Tranzeo
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>> CPQ/SL2
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios.  I just wish
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> they
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio.  We can get a
>>>>>>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less.  The price on the
>>>>>>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>> panel.
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> ---- ---- ---- ----
>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> UP
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | chris at uplogon.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> channels?
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> to
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> that counts."
>>>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> <robert at avantwireless.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Damian,
>>>>>>>>>       Thank you for making this public.   We know that MT and
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> Valemount
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> of them.   Your competitive spirit made this business thrive
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> against
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> proprietary interests...   We wish that StarOS and MT would have
>>>>>>>>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> the
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> other.  We would have both in our network for each of their
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> particular
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> advantages if they had....   Our testing showed ST did better on
>>>>>>>>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing
>>>>>>>>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price...
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> So
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> have both.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>       Robert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> State Secret.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>> It
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> has to
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both.  An SA,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>> unless
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>> Since 5
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> documented
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>> different,
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it.  Result is
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>> staring
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin.  It can be fixed, in code
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Damian
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of D.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> Spott
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists
>>>>>>>>>>>> <lists at manageisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did some more testing on this today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>> as a
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> as
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.   I did verify that the 20mhz channel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>> Retries
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25.   StarOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>> is
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 1.3.23b.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What specifically is the problem?  They won't connect on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>> 5/10MHz
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> StarOS AP?  Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP?  Have you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>> tried
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>> settings
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tik?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chuck at shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-bounces at mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larsen -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>> compatibility
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>> been
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>> with
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> StarOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs?    I have a pile of MT units that are no good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>> to
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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